They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?

[Alice Purjorick]

I didn't say it was sensible, but we have all taken risks with our children at one time or another and anyone who claims otherwise is lying IMO.

Of course we have but that is not the full story.
It pays to understand the impact uncertainties and hazards will have together with the rate of exposure to them while taking the risk.

[sadie]

Why is it 'picking on' someone to point out that they were content to leave their small children to their own devices for up to 30 minutes at a time? A decision that millions of parents have not made over the centuries.

Likewise a decision that millions of parents have made over the years, with their children sleeping deeply ... to eat in the garden of the apartments / hotel overlooking their flat from about 50 metres.

[Mr Gray]

Of course we have but that is not the full story.
It pays to understand the impact uncertainties and hazards will have together with the rate of exposure to them while taking the risk.

I'm sure from what the McCanns said that's exactly what they did
Hindsight is a wonderful thing

[Alice Purjorick]

I'm sure from what the McCanns said that's exactly what they did
Hindsight is a wonderful thing

Risk assessment is not based on hindsight.
Like it or not they gambled and lost. That's the bare fact.
What anyone else feels about it is of no relevance.

[Mr Gray]

Risk assessment is not based on hindsight.
Like it or not they gambled and lost. That's the bare fact.
What anyone else feels about it is of no relevance.

They will be fully aware as doctors re risk assessment
Gambling is an emotive word .....but like most gamblers they were extremely unlucky
Like it or not

[Alfie]

Of course we have but that is not the full story.
It pays to understand the impact uncertainties and hazards will have together with the rate of exposure to them while taking the risk.

Both my kids have just walked out the front door to take the 15 minute walk to school, a walk they've been doing for years and which involves crossing two busy roads.  One of their classmates was knocked down and seriously injured crossing one of those roads.  I understand the hazards and the rate of exposure is approx 10 times a week x 2 kids.  Should I be locked up for neglect?

[G-Unit]

Both my kids have just walked out the front door to take the 15 minute walk to school, a walk they've been doing for years and which involves crossing two busy roads.  One of their classmates was knocked down and seriously injured crossing one of those roads.  I understand the hazards and the rate of exposure is approx 10 times a week x 2 kids.  Should I be locked up for neglect?

I think you'e OK as long as they're older than 2 or 3 years, when, as we all know, they need full-time supervision.

[Robittybob1]

I think you'e OK as long as they're older than 2 or 3 years, when, as we all know, they need full-time supervision.

lol

[xtina]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/5402462.stm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willington_Quay_child_abduction_case -snip-

The mother was on the premises in the next door room .... yet her little girl was taken.
How do you square your comment up with that Gunit ?

the little girl was found although tragic circumstances......what do you think would have happened if she hadn't been there...if she had been checking every half hour ....but the mother was there

not in a tapas bar drinking wine ......maddie was left with twins .....it was not safe...

they were alone................

[sadie]

the little girl was found although tragic circumstances......what do you think would have happened if she hadn't been there...if she had been checking every half hour ....but the mother was there

not in a tapas bar drinking wine ......maddie was left with twins .....it was not safe...

they were alone................

Xtina

You are spreading disinformation there.

The McCanns WERE NOT IN A BAR .  They were in a restaurant which was the next building to the bar BUT NOT THE BAR.

They were having their evening meal and wine was served with the meal, which is quite normal for most people.

THe wine waiter confirmed that they were only drinking moderately.

Please make sure you get your information right in future ... and I would suggerst that you try to make ammends by removing the DISinformation that you have posted ... and pronto

[sadie]

the little girl was found although tragic circumstances......what do you think would have happened if she hadn't been there...if she had been checking every half hour ....but the mother was there

The mother was there, yes, but the little girl was taken DESPITE THAT.
It happened when she was there ... so what are you suggesting would have happened had she not been there, but checking every half hour?

Suggest you put your thinking cap on.
All answers on a postage stamp please

[stephen25000]

The mother was there, yes, but the little girl was taken DESPITE THAT.
It happened when she was there ... so what are you suggesting would have happened had she not been there, but checking every half hour?

Suggest you put your thinking cap on.
All answers on a postage stamp please

Yet the McCann's weren't there.

No system is perfect and you can't say zero risk, but you can minimize the possibilities.

So Sadie, why couldn't the McCann's have dined and wined in the apartment ?

[Alfie]

I think you'e OK as long as they're older than 2 or 3 years, when, as we all know, they need full-time supervision.

Why though?  Allowing your 10 year old kids to cross dangerous roads unsupervised is surely much more likely to result in their injury or death than leaving them aged 3 tucked up in bed asleep for 30 minutes at a time.

[xtina]

Xtina

You are spreading disinformation there.

The McCanns WERE NOT IN A BAR .  They were in a restaurant which was the next building to the bar BUT NOT THE BAR.

They were having their evening meal and wine was served with the meal, which is quite normal for most people.

THe wine waiter confirmed that they were only drinking moderately.

Please make sure you get your information right in future ... and I would suggerst that you try to make ammends by removing the DISinformation that you have posted ... and pronto

how am i spreading disinformation...............

they were in a tapas bar....eating/drinking..

how do you know what they drank ..was you there.....the waiter doesn't seem to remember much .....

why should he ...he was a barman serving drinks...not..there to remember who drank what....

I I R C ....they had wine before they went out ......with there meal .....and a wine bill on top...

as for making amends............ you take too much on yourself

if the post is not removed by mods.....

mind your own business sweetie..pronto...

[xtina]

YAWN!!

The Mccanns were like in their back garden. ... only a tiny bit over 50 metres away.  Many people have back gardens of 50 metres, or more, stephen.

Be a darling, and give it a rest, please stephen

xxx sadie

it wasn't ...their back garden though was it .....

they were in a foreign country ..........

in a strange room...

what would they have seen/heard ......a so called 50 mtr away ...sadie ....they saw nothing did they

so it was just the thirty minute check .to see if all was well...and it wasn't ...was it...