Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?

[Robittybob1]

Best leave that to the real experts,SY and the PJ.

It is going to be interesting to see what documents are released when the case is archived for the second time.

[Mr Gray]

I think it is more to create another myth of the unreliable search dog.

Then you think wrong... The dog is reliable as a search dog as most understand... If there are remains the dog will find it

The problem arises with so called remnant scent.

In that instance grime is unable to confirm the alerts... And tells us they are unreliable as evidence

[barrier]

It is going to be interesting to see what documents are released when the case is archived for the second time.

Don't see that happening some how.

[Mr Gray]

I think it is more to create another myth of the unreliable search dog.

what we have also seen is G unit who is regarded by some as an expert on the case ...make claims re the dogs taht she cannot substantiate...one of which is totally untrue..hence the myths being perpetuated...

G posted..
Given that Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent

[slartibartfast]

what we have also seen is G unit who is regarded by some as an expert on the case ...make claims re the dogs taht she cannot substantiate...one of which is totally untrue..hence the myths being perpetuated...

G posted..
Given that Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent


I think we all know taht is untrue

...and you and others are creating myths about the dogs.

[Mr Gray]

...and you and others are creating myths about the dogs.

you will now need to give a cite where I have created  a myth or remove your post...your claim is total rubbish re myself

[slartibartfast]

you will now need to give a cite where I have created  a myth or remove your post...your claim is total rubbish re myself

Fine, so you accept that the dogs were professionally handled, most likely alerted to what the trained to alert to, were not directed to alert falsely and were not tired. If you don’t accept that you are creating myths I.e. unsubstantiated narratives to caste doubt on an element of the case.

[Mr Gray]

Fine, so you accept that the dogs were professionally handled, most likely alerted to what the trained to alert to, were not directed to alert falsely and were not tired. If you don’t accept that you are creating myths I.e. unsubstantiated narratives to caste doubt on an element of the case.

Grime has not told us what the dogs alerted to... So most likely is an assumption..
I have never said the dogs were directed to alert falsely
...so you need to withdraw, your false claim

[Mr Gray]

...and you and others are creating myths about the dogs.

A cite for where I have created a myth... Otherwise  you need to remove your claim

I have been quite meticulous in my posts Re the dogs... Always providing cites... G unit on the sceptic side has made several innaccurate posts recently  and failed to provide cites...

[jassi]

It is going to be interesting to see what documents are released when the case is archived for the second time.

From your comment I take it that you don't think the case will be solved.

OG will disclose nothing. That is the way of British police, so nothing to see there.

Portugal may be rather more circumspect a second time around and restrict access to the general public.

[G-Unit]

The  reason for posting is to dispel the myths... Surely it's the truth that's important.. I have never criticised Grime
Do you have a cite fir scientific  testing of Eddie.. I read evidence of ytraining was anectdotal not scientific..

You have shown your misunderstanding  of what grime said on another thread...
Grime has never confirmed the alerts, were to cadaver odour... They have no evidential reliability... You need to accept that

Your reason for posting may be to dispel what you see as myths. Others, in my opinion, are creating myths about about bacon sandwiches and fertilizer. You may be interested in truth, they seem more interested in starting rumours which have no truthful underpinnings.

Scientific testing;
"samples being taken by remote means on sterile gauze pads. The gauze pads are then 'screened' in a line - up formation with the inclusion of a number of control samples and blank sterile pads."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

I have misunderstood nothing. Grime gave his professional opinion about what Eddie was alerting to. Just his opinion, but an expert opinion has value.

[G-Unit]

what we have also seen is G unit who is regarded by some as an expert on the case ...make claims re the dogs taht she cannot substantiate...one of which is totally untrue..hence the myths being perpetuated...

G posted..
Given that Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent

My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

[Mr Gray]

Your reason for posting may be to dispel what you see as myths. Others, in my opinion, are creating myths about about bacon sandwiches and fertilizer. You may be interested in truth, they seem more interested in starting rumours which have no truthful underpinnings.

Scientific testing;
"samples being taken by remote means on sterile gauze pads. The gauze pads are then 'screened' in a line - up formation with the inclusion of a number of control samples and blank sterile pads."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

I have misunderstood nothing. Grime gave his professional opinion about what Eddie was alerting to. Just his opinion, but an expert opinion has value.

You have misunderstood his opinion.. He states the alerts are suggestive of cadaver odour not are cadaver odour...

You said independent  scientific testing... What you have quoted IS NOT... who does the testing?

Scent on a couple of gauze pads is NOT scientific testing

I'm happy with Grimes expert opinion... The alerts have no evidential  value

[Mr Gray]

My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Read it again.. Grimes opinion is that his opinion is that it is suggestive the alerts were triggered by cadaver scent... Not that they were


Proof again you do not understand  the evidence even when it's in front of you

[barrier]

Read it again.. Grimes opinion is that his opinion is that it is suggestive the alerts were triggered by cadaver scent... Not that they were


Proof again you do not understand  the evidence even when it's in front of you

Getting on toward 11 yrs it seems enough to vex thee though.