Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.

[jassi]

There is no evidence the alerts are reliable
Even grime tells us they are merely suggestive

Its the humans doing the suggestions, not the dogs who are quite positive about what they have found.
You don't get the dogs pondering is it , isn't ?
IMO

[Mr Gray]

Its the humans doing the suggestions, not the dogs who are quite positive about what they have found.
You don't get the dogs pondering is it , isn't ?
IMO

We don't know what the dogs think they've found...

[jassi]

We don't know what the dogs think they've found...

Exactly and who's fault is that?

[Eleanor]

Exactly and who's fault is that?

What sort of question is that?

[Erngath]

The parents are not suspects - remember that 

Yes.
I assume you also believe that any evidence of parental involvement will be ignored by the present investigation?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Did Billy invent the scenario you describe or did you invent it?

Perhaps Billy can tell us in what way his scenario differs materially from the one I invented.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well we would be talking two hours plus... but the bodies chemical response to extreme situations happens almost immediately. It would certainly constitute abnormal behaviour in this case but it does happen occasionally  that people who have just witnessed or committed the most shocking acts can act normally around others.

It's not as far fetched as believing highly trained specialist dogs that are proven by forensic science to be right 90-100% of the time suddenly and inexplicably start making mistakes.... and their mistakes are only towards items relating to one family.

We also know KM took a shower around the kids bedtime. We know it's implied in her first interview that she had a bath (but later when GM was there). We know that for some reason DP can't remember  that KM was dressed only in a towel and went to bizarre lengths to describe how everything was normal, no-one was in trouble, the children were very happy, "sort of standing" and "at peace". We know that falling is the number one cause of accidental home injury death.

What are these “bizarre lengths” of which you speak?  What bath?  She had a shower then a bath in the same evening?   If falling  is the number one cause of death at home then the internet should be littered with examples of children falling off furniture to their near instant deaths.  In fact it’s a wonder any of us let our kids sit on the sofa so apparently lethal they are if they fall off!

[Vertigo Swirl]

Appeal to ridicule fallacy.

I knew you’d write that.  You’re nothing if not predictable.  Glad you find the scenario ridiculous but some people actually believe it, incredibly.

[Vertigo Swirl]

But a fall from a balcony could.

Billy’s scenario involves death before the McCanns left for dinner.  Why would the McCanns wish to cover up a fall from the balcony? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

I was responding to a point made by Verti, as to whether after such an act, can someone appear convivial and friends not put on alert.  It happened in this instance.

Why drag in the T7, when they may be perfectly innocent and unknowing?

Your example was ridiculous but thanks for sharing.

[Vertigo Swirl]

They have not been shown to alert to faeces, urine, nappies or cooked meat as some implied.

If they were inaccurate it wouldn't be 11 times towards items relating to only one family. These results are indicative of a correct response.

How do you explain the alerts made by Zampo the cadaver dog in the case of Thomas Quick the serial killer that never was? 

[Mr Gray]

They have not been shown to alert to faeces, urine, nappies or cooked meat as some implied.

If they were inaccurate it wouldn't be 11 times towards items relating to only one family. These results are indicative of a correct response.

I said remnant scent of...and not cooked meat but out of date raw meat...as far as I can see...none of this has ever been tested

[Holly Goodhead]

There's an interesting thought.

I wonder how one would check whether items were from a deceased or a living person?

I would suggest taking them into charity shops where we know a lot of items have come from the deceased and then take them to retail outlets selling brand new items and see what the difference in alerts is.  If they alert repeatedly in the former then maybe set up a charity shop with items from the deceased and brand new items and see how accurate they are at distinguishing.   

[faithlilly]

Billy’s scenario involves death before the McCanns left for dinner.  Why would the McCanns wish to cover up a fall from the balcony?

I wasn’t talking about Billy’s scenario.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I wasn’t talking about Billy’s scenario.

Well I was, with him.  If you want to talk about your theory your theory you’ll need to spell it out as Billy has.