Author Topic: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?  (Read 30270 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2016, 11:19:44 AM »
I totally agree with that.

ALL this is the mother's fault.

I don't know about UK culture, but certain UK citizens seem to subscribe to a culture which blames everyone else for their own failings. I find it objectionable that certain people excuse their bad behaviour by saying it's part of 'British culture'.
Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=2.0

stephen25000

  • Guest
Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2016, 11:20:28 AM »
I'm  a man...and if I saw  a baby unnattended on a hotel floor...I would ask poeple around whose the baby was ...then pick the baby up and take it to reception......not leave it on the floor for an hour..ridiculous

Leaving her baby alone in the hotel room was ridiculous dave, wasn't it ?


Or are you supporting what she did ?

stephen25000

  • Guest
Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2016, 11:21:46 AM »
I don't know about UK culture, but certain UK citizens seem to subscribe to a culture which blames everyone else for their own failings. I find it objectionable that certain people excuse their bad behaviour by saying it's part of 'British culture'.

Indeed G-Unit.

It's the not me 'gov mentality.

It sucks.

Priestly got it so right.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2016, 11:24:07 AM »
we don't have any proper evidence the she did leave the bay on the lobby floor...but you are going to jump to your conclusions without evidence.. par for the course

Did she deny it? I'm not relying on something a policeman said two years ago and calling it 'evidence' like some do.
Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=2.0

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2016, 11:30:32 AM »
I don't know about UK culture, but certain UK citizens seem to subscribe to a culture which blames everyone else for their own failings. I find it objectionable that certain people excuse their bad behaviour by saying it's part of 'British culture'.

It is acceptable in the uk to leave babies in hotel rooms for 30 mins.....hotels actually promote this

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2016, 11:31:05 AM »
Did she deny it? I'm not relying on something a policeman said two years ago and calling it 'evidence' like some do.

she has denied it...

stephen25000

  • Guest
Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2016, 11:31:53 AM »
It is acceptable in the uk to leave babies in hotel rooms for 30 mins.....hotels actually promote this

CITE.

Including of course for the U.S.A.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2016, 11:32:19 AM »
Did she deny it? I'm not relying on something a policeman said two years ago and calling it 'evidence' like some do.

you are relying on something said by someone you do not know and whose evidence sounds ridiculous

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2016, 11:33:24 AM »
CITE.

Including of course for the U.S.A.

watergate bay hotel...cornwall ..Ive satyed there and it has been mentioned before...we are talking about UK culture not US

stephen25000

  • Guest
Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2016, 11:40:53 AM »
watergate bay hotel...cornwall ..Ive satyed there and it has been mentioned before...we are talking about UK culture not US

That's not a cite, just one hearsay example.

The case in question happened in the U.S.

What UK culture by the way ?

I think the vast majority of parents would never have done what this woman did.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2016, 11:44:42 AM »
That's not a cite, just one hearsay example.

The case in question happened in the U.S.

What UK culture by the way ?

I think the vast majority of parents would never have done what this woman did.

hearsay.. I've given a full cite many times...

Watergate Bay Hotel operates a baby listening service which can be used at The Beach Hut and Fifteen Cornwall and we can provide a babysitter between 6pm and 2am, so that you can enjoy an evening out! All of our babysitters are Kids’ Zone staff.

http://www.netmums.com/national/view/holidays/uk-hotels-guest-houses-and-b-bs/watergate-hotel
« Last Edit: January 09, 2016, 12:06:04 PM by Slartibartfast »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2016, 11:48:35 AM »
http://www.britainsfinest.co.uk/hotels/search_results.cfm/searchclasscode/305

Have a look at the number of hotels offering baby listening

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2016, 11:55:08 AM »
It is acceptable in the uk to leave babies in hotel rooms for 30 mins.....hotels actually promote this

It's hard to know if this is the Hotel's idea or their perception that some parents want this service, isn't it? This one is clearly not taking full responsibility for the children.

Baby monitoring and baby listening

Watergate Bay Hotel operates a baby monitoring and baby listening service which can also be used at The Beach Hut and Fifteen Cornwall. Responsibility for the child remains with the parents at all times and it is recommended that parents check on their children regularly. Parents are not permitted to leave the hotel grounds when using the service.

- See more at: http://www.watergatebay.co.uk/stay/families/parents/#sthash.172m4nVj.dpuf
Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=2.0

stephen25000

  • Guest
Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2016, 11:58:44 AM »
hearsay..I've given a full cite many times...

Watergate Bay Hotel operates a baby listening service which can be used at The Beach Hut and Fifteen Cornwall and we can provide a babysitter between 6pm and 2am, so that you can enjoy an evening out! All of our babysitters are Kids’ Zone staff.

http://www.netmums.com/national/view/holidays/uk-hotels-guest-houses-and-b-bs/watergate-hotel

The case occurred in the U.S.

Now cite from there.

and this woman , the police officer, did not use any service, she left the child by itself.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2016, 12:06:33 PM by Slartibartfast »

Offline Brietta

Re: Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?
« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2016, 12:20:05 PM »
http://law.justia.com/cases/new-york/other-courts/2015/2015-ny-slip-op-51097-u.html

An interesting read seemingly less concerned with the welfare of a child than the discovery of a controlled substance during a police search of luggage without a warrant.

The fact that the tablets were in their original container, properly labelled, prescribed by the doctor of the person in whose possession they were discovered ... seems to have carried no weight at all.

It has the potential to become a bit of a cause célèbre if it ever comes to trial ... and I look forward to seeing the CCTV images of the child sitting on the floor for an hour in the hotel foyer while staff manoeuvre heavy suitcases over his head.

In the interim, a British child is in the hands of the New York care system which is in the throes of a class action which alleges it cannot care for its own.


Why NYC's Foster Care System is Failing Children
JUL 10, 2015 12:30 PM
NINA WOLPOW


PHOTO: BEBETO MATTHEWS/AP PHOTO.

City Public Advocate Letitia James, center, and child advocates hold a press conference announcing a class action lawsuit against the New York City Administration for Children’s Services (ACS) and the New York State Office of Children and Family Services (OCFS) for causing irreparable harm to children, Wednesday, July 8, 2015, in New York.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....