Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?

[Robittybob1]

Is it ?

I was trying to think of a case where a child was abducted from her bed and their siblings were tested for drugs as a matter of course. I couldn’t think of one. Can you ?

If the kids were all in the same room maybe it is something to consider doing.

[misty]

Is it ?

I was trying to think of a case where a child was abducted from her bed and their siblings were tested for drugs as a matter of course. I couldn’t think of one. Can you ?

I'd struggle to find a case, other than Rosie Tapia, where a child was taken from a room with multiple occupants.

[faithlilly]

I'd struggle to find a case, other than Rosie Tapia, where a child was taken from a room with multiple occupants.

Were the other occupants tested for drugs ?

[misty]

Were the other occupants tested for drugs ?

No idea. It happened in USA in 1995.

[Sunny]

I can't find anything either Misty.

I have though found an old link to an article on here

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7852.0

Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins on the night Madeleine was taken

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1386093/Kate-McCann-Kidnapper-drugged-twins-night-Madeleine-taken.html#ixzz4Tpd4uTpc
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Does the forum think this is really practical?  What would be the point?

A good summary of the issues here:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/133307/MADELEINE-EXCLUSIVE-All-three-children-drugged
"They are convinced the ­abductor went to the family’s apartment on May 3 2007 fully prepared with sufficient drugs, probably ­chloroform, to knock out all three children.

The fact that Sean and Amelie, then just 18 months old, failed to wake when the alarm was raised, nor even as they were taken to another apartment in the cold night air, has persuaded the detectives that they, too, must have been drugged.

Had the twins been tested for drugs immediately, any ­medication used could have been established, making it easier to identify the kidnapper, but vital time was lost.

Chloroform can be made ­easily and other sedatives, such as the horse tranquilliser ketamine, are commonly in circulation in the criminal underworld.

Even now, however, experts say there may be forensic clues on clothing or bedding which could yield a breakthrough."

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Interesting that Edgar appears to claim (IMO) that the McCanns thought chloroform may have been used. This article dates from 2009 by the way.  The post above appears to be a shortened version of the Express news story


https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/133307/MADELEINE-EXCLUSIVE-All-three-children-drugged

I hope this works as I have never tried to quote from another thread before.

[misty]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2595.msg90942#msg90942

Worth a read again from an revered sceptic author re. the use of chloroform.

IMO the twins were not sedated by either their parents or an intruder. There was no need if they didn't stir & speed is of the essence in the crime of abduction.

[Sunny]

I don't know her and to be honest she doesn't make sense to me apart from the horror of child sexual abuse (i will not call it pornography).

That is horrific.

[faithlilly]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2595.msg90942#msg90942

Worth a read again from an revered sceptic author re. the use of chloroform.

IMO the twins were not sedated by either their parents or an intruder. There was no need if they didn't stir & speed is of the essence in the crime of abduction.

Yet their mother and father thought they may have been sedated. Why are you second guessing them ?

[misty]

Yet their mother and father thought they may have been sedated. Why are you second guessing them ?

I'm not second-guessing them as my opinion is offered in hindsight.

[Brietta]

I'm not second-guessing them as my opinion is offered in hindsight.

Isn't most of the comment on McCann made with the benefit of the exact science of hindsight? 

[Robittybob1]

I'm not second-guessing them as my opinion is offered in hindsight.

Are you deliberately making the task of moderation more difficult.  To me the statement "I'm not second-guessing them as my opinion is offered in hindsight" is just a bit beyond my understanding. 

[Mr Gray]

Chloroform can be made ­easily and other sedatives, such as the horse tranquilliser ketamine, are commonly in circulation in the criminal underworld.

this was 2009....interesting I mentioned ketamine last week and got a whole load of abuse...LOL

[misty]

Are you deliberately making the task of moderation more difficult.  To me the statement "I'm not second-guessing them as my opinion is offered in hindsight" is just a bit beyond my understanding.

Perhaps you should look at the question before the answer?

[Robittybob1]

Perhaps you should look at the question before the answer?

Was there a question?  I'm working on "second-guessing"  I know opinion and hindsight.

second-guess
verb
gerund or present participle: second-guessing
1.
anticipate or predict (someone's actions or thoughts) by guesswork.
"he had to second-guess what the environmental regulations would be in five years' time"
2.
NORTH AMERICAN
criticize (someone or something) with hindsight.
"no one should second-guess police officers whose lives are on the line"


Did you use definition 1 or 2?

"I'm not second-guessing (anticipating or predicting (someone's actions or thoughts) by guesswork) them as my opinion is offered in hindsight"

OK Faithlilly could have used it in the North American sense instead in that you criticized (someone or something) with hindsight.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It could be for the same reason that they decided to get the twins and kate checked for drugs in November 2007. But you have to ask them why they did that then and not sooner. IMO

IMO no one has been able to proffer any credible reason why Kate McCann would deliberately raise the possibility of sedation if she herself had been involved in sedating her own children.